Re: ANN: Soletta Project


Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Robert Schwebel
<r.schwebel@...> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 01:18:28PM -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
ARGH!
We're fixing it, we found problems within Yocto as well.

The idea of moving to Kbuild is to make options interdependency easier
to track and do, as well as allowing it to be extremely configurable
for small os (for standard Linux we can compile everything as .so and
ship what we need)

Sorry about the inconvenience at this moment, but I believe as soon as
we get enough test it will be stable and a better option.
"
Use autotools
- Every custom config/makefile/build system is worse for everybody
than autotools is.
- We are all used to autotools, it works, nobody cares.
- It's only two simple files to edit and include in git, which are
well understood by many many people, not just you.

[...]

- And really, nothing but autotools is really an option. Just get
over it. Everything else is an experiment, and it will come back
to you sooner or later. Why? think cross compilation, installation/
uninstallation, build root integration, separate object trees,
standard adherence, tarball handling, make distcheck, testing,
portability between distros, ...
"

... from https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/kay/libabc.git/plain/README
and it is very, very true.
well, this is Lennart and Kay, I know them and the history of libabc.
To put in context, the idea was to enlighten all the kernel developers
how to do stuff in userspace as most of them really invented something
new (not even kbuild, but their own Makefiles with shell scripts).


But I get your point. let's give people few more weeks to get it ready
for once and for all, it now we can go back.


(BTW, for cross compile we will need two builds of Soletta as we use some
built binaries to generate other files we use. One native and another for
target)
Yes, I've seen that you already started inventing stuff like TOOLCHAIN_PREFIX.
I'm not much into Kbuild so I'm not reviewing these patches. If you
know a Kbuild standard way let them know (Leandro Dorileo is the one
doing it).


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